I own several pairs of Santa Cruz Crocs. Started with my summer pairs which I wear no socks with and are very comfortable. Attempted to wear with socks and they became rather tight,but I purchased them for the summer. With these I mainly purchased them to wear with socks and not in the summer. I already knew they may be tight so I ordered one larger size thinking it would compensate but I still find them tight around the toes. I'm hoping that with some time and wear they will stretch because any larger will be to big a size.