this has a sleeker fit and not as wide a toe box which makes for a nicer looking clog than the older kind. The liner is removable. I like the closer fit, still was able to order my regular shoe size and it fits well and snug to the foot. If you want to wear this with socks I would recommend sizing up. the small draw back of the removable liner and sleeker fit are that once the shoes are on they don't just come right off. The liner comes out with your foot. not a big problem for me, I just put it back in.... just fyi
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